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Remember when you could fight with a sibling and not face arrest?
A 10-year-old Texas girl has been arrested and charged with assault after she and her 13-year-old sister got into a fight.
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OMG and WTF!!! We have become a country full of pussies!! Now we have meddling cops arresting siblings for getting into a fight. Why don't we just have a sweep of every neighborhood and every house in the country and arrest every child in a family that has two children or more in it.
A 10 year old and a 13 year old fighting IS NOT family violence. At that age they don't know how to manage their anger.
I defy ANYONE to tell me why this was a good idea.
Posted by: joel | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 06:58 AM
I broke two of my own toes kicking my sister when I was seven. True story. I could probably get that turned around on her today and have her sent to the big house.
Posted by: Drake Timbershaft | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:02 AM
I live in Flower Mound, it's nothing new that the cops have nothing better to do, they like to get them young around here
Posted by: K | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:07 AM
My sons were brought up to believe that your brother is your best friend, and always will be. Their families now share a home, and they still feel that way.
I'll never understand why the parent is never held responsible in stories like this. Arresting the child opens another can of worms, when there is a culpable adult at hand. Cops are charged with preserving the peace. Parents are charged with raising publicly civil children.
Posted by: thomas | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:07 AM
AMEN Joel!
Posted by: MidtownCoog | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:08 AM
Hopefully my 3 year old won't be taken to the pokey for hitting his 10 month old brother. It made the 10 month old cry then I made the 3 year old cry.
Posted by: Elroy | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:08 AM
From the Article's Reader Responses - "I blame the mother for not teaching her children that they are suppose to love each other. My sons did that one time and when I finished with them never again did that happen."
Or to paraphrase - "My son's didn't love each other, so I beat the crap out of them until they did."
Yes, I know it's not relevant to anything; it just amused me.
Posted by: Tank | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:10 AM
LMAO!!!
By these standards, my brother and I should be doing 25 to life for the fights we used to get in to!
Posted by: RockyMtnMac | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:13 AM
I thank my lucky stars that I grew up back in the 1970s. My sibs and I would have been so arrested if we were kids today. I once pushed my sister through a glass door (fortunately, she was wearing a heavy coat and didn't get hurt); she got me back for that later on. My brothers and I regularly got into fistfights; one of them once clocked me on the head with a block of wood and I still have the scar. None of us are the worse for it, though, and we all get along pretty well as adults. (My own kids have been known to throw a punch at each other when their parents aren't watching, but they're a lot less violent towards one another than we were.)
Yes, I know that there are families with serious abuse problems, but that doesn't sound like it's the case with these sisters. Moral of the story: wait till you're in private to punch your sister in the nose.
Posted by: Phranqlin | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:14 AM
Wow. Lock up the felons. And while you're at it, throw in some witches. At this rate, how long do we have before we are hanging urchins for stealing crusts of bread?
Posted by: sometimesilie | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:19 AM
holy cow...my brother used to sling me and little sis around and shake us upside down. little sis threw a knife at me cleaning the kitchen. i bloodied her nose once and i still have scars from fights.....
but no one ever messed with any of us without having to deal with the other 2 just waiting to kick a butt--
that is sibling love and rivalry.
Posted by: lynn | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 07:34 AM
*sigh
I guess I should just go ahead and turn myself in...
Posted by: LimeGreenLizard | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:00 AM
ISN`T THIS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PILES OF CRAP YOU HAVE EVER HEARD? WHY DO THE POLICE CONCERN THEMSELVES WITH SUCH TRIVIAL CRAP? MAYBE IT PAYS MORE THAN GOING AFTER REAL CRIMINALS.
Posted by: MONKEY JERKm | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:03 AM
Arrested????? Come on!!!! I don't know how that jurisdiction is, but over here they give us SOME leeway! Something like that would only rate a minor talking too....ARRESTED?????? I'm crawling back over to the beach bar......
Posted by: USMerc | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:03 AM
The ten-year-old must have been winning the fight. You'd think a thirteen-year-old would be bigger and stronger.
Posted by: Sheila | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:08 AM
I feel safer knowing this 10 year old monster is locked up.
Posted by: kevy | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:15 AM
@Thomas I don't know if you have childrern but your post indicates to me that you don't. My children, 7 and 4, are CONSTANTLY told to leave each other alone, stop fighting, stop arguing, get away from each other. Kids who fight don't automatically mean that the parents are not teaching them right.
These two kids' parents are not culpable in any way for anything. They are two kids fighting, something that has been happening since the beginning of time. Look at the rest of the posts here. Almost everyone has a story about either kicking the crap out of a sibling or getting the crap kicked out of them by a sibling. It doesn't make them anti social, or not civil, or whatever drool you are spewing. It makes them, and all of us who have these stories, just people who are kids or were kids once.
Holy s**t. Can this country get any more retarded?
Posted by: joel | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:15 AM
Every day is a step closer to art becoming reality. If you haven't read 1984, or it's been a long time for you, give it a spin.
I for one am a little tired of our new police officer overlords.
Posted by: Soo | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:16 AM
The bar is open Merc. It's a bit crowded, though. We all just found out an hour ago that about half of us are losing our jobs this week. And the other half probably will in a few weeks. I wish my brother was here so I could beat the shit out of him. RMM, a dirty martini please?
Posted by: LimeGreenLizard | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:20 AM
LOL @ kevy
I know, right?
Lock the kid up and throw the key away.
We need NEW legislation to deal with this! We will call it the "I'm Telling Mom You Said I Was A Booger" law.
If it saves just one life, won't it be worth it?
Posted by: RockyMtnMac | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:28 AM
Coming right up Lizard.
Sorry to hear about your job.
:(
Posted by: RockyMtnMac | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:29 AM
Great idea, RMM. But why stop there?
I propose the "Mom, he's looking at me funny" law to strike at the root of sibling conflict!
Posted by: Phranqlin | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:43 AM
that suxors LGL.
Posted by: Sigh | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:45 AM
joel;
I'm guessing my sons are about your age. They admit to a couple tussles away from home, but never anywhere near me. They found it much more redeeming to take on big odds in defense of the other, and always won.
It might please you to know that in many ways I failed them and former wife badly, but not in how to get along well with each other. Not easy being a constant good example is it??
Let he who dosen't drool spew the first chunk.
Best of luck with your heathens!
Posted by: thomas | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:46 AM
LOL @ RMM! To this very day, my adult daughters will bow up on each other, with my oldest calling her sister Boogers!
That said, (Thomas), they are fiercly loyal to each other.
Posted by: LimeGreenLizard | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:47 AM
When my sister was 10, I slammed the piano lid down on her fingers when she was practicing and sprained two of them. She turned around and went after me with a cheese grater. We pushed each other off bikes, out of trees and threw food at each other at the dinner table. Who knew we were lifelong felons who should be decorating a jail cell?
It's a little early here for a drink, but I'll raise a glass to a good guy losing his job. So very sorry, LGL. :-(
Posted by: pnwgal | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:48 AM
joel, check your reading comprehension. Thomas has sons. It says so in his post. And just what is wrong with children getting along? A force united, so to speak?
This country has some serious problems when police must step in to separate and discipline siblings in the place of parents.
Posted by: you know me by now | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 08:56 AM
LOL @ Phranqlin!
@Pnwgal - I threw a pitchfork at my brother when I was 12. Grazed his temple. Whew! True confession is good for the soul, but we better hope the statute of limitations applies here..
@ you know me by now - it's like I know you..
Posted by: RockyMtnMac | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 09:07 AM
LimeGreenLizard;
I recently lost my two part time gigs.
Relpaced by security cameras on one, and downsizing due to poor business on the other. There is no work here.
Feel bad for you also, and wish there were something we could do for each other. We are certainly not alone in this. Any ideas would be well received, especially in the self employed, or home business dept.
Hang in there brother!
Posted by: thomas | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 09:11 AM
Wouldn't it be nice if we all just got along? Wake up and smell the expresso you folks that think sibling squabbling falls under aint it awful. Family are the folks we get to really play our shit out with. It used to be the extended family would come over and trim your ears back if you screwed up. The family used to take care of things instead of a rehab center. Ward and June Cleaver were a myth, weather you like it or not life is messy. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Posted by: 305club | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 09:18 AM
whether
Posted by: 305club | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 09:23 AM
@305club Thank you for putting it better than I could. You said "It used to be the extended family would come over and trim your ears back if you screwed up". I can remember a time when I was visiting my grandfather (my father's father) and he heard my dad speak to my mother in a harsh way (I was only about 9 or 10) and I remember my grandfather saying to my dad, 'if I ever hear you speak to her like that again I will knock you out'. Today, that would be family violence, 35 years ago it was my dad being an a$$hole and my grandfather setting him straight. I know that no one in that story was a child, but the concept of sibling/family fighting remains.
Posted by: joel | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 09:27 AM
My folks had an intersting take on this. When we were younger, by brother (15 months younger than me) would pick on both my and our sister (five years younger than I). We were about 10 and 9 when I had had enough. I started laying into him really hard. My folks told me to stop so they could remove his glasses and then let me continue (they must have realized I needed the release). Afterwards, I went up into mey room and cried, because I had hurt my little brother (a lesson too-well learned when he was born).
In high school, I naturally had my growth spurt before he did, so I would just sit on him or pick him up by his ankles when he got rowdy.
We're now the best of friends.
Posted by: Navy Chief | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Thanks everyone. Especially you, Thomas. I hope you get a golden opportunity.
And to add to my day's drama, my dad called me to tell me my grandma died last night. It just keeps getting better.
Sorry to dump on y'all. Maybe it's this family thread here. Well, that and the majority of you folks here are really decent people. Despite our differences of opinions. Y'all are good people.
Posted by: LimeGreenLizard | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 11:02 AM
My brother was 8 years older than me and obviously had a great advantage in a fair fight. Didn't stop us from fighting like cats and dogs!! It made me a stronger person who stands up for myself, as well as taught me to take a punch. In the end, I knew he was always there for me though. He could mess with me, but no one else could. Once we got older, and he got over the idea that he had to threaten every guy who wanted to date me, we had a great relationship.
My girls are teenagers and fight all the damn time. Not physical as much as yelling at each other. I think that's just what happens when you have a sibling. My girls get along great when no one is around, but I think the fights are more based on getting the attention than hatred. (For those non parents that say to that 'You should give them more attention then', it doesn't matter how much they get, they want it all and simply cannot have it)
I lived through it, my girls will too. These people are stupid!!!!!
Posted by: jojo | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 11:14 AM
305club;
Sagacious
Posted by: thomas | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 11:18 AM
LimeGreenLizard;
I hear and see the 'thousand mile stare' creeping up on you.
Begin something RIGHT NOW!
Begin celebrating your Grandma's life, and happily try to celebrate the changes about to happen in yours.
You have my condolences and any help I can perform.
You also have my toast,,,,,To Grandma,,And LGL!!
SALUD!
Posted by: thomas | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Wow! I'm just gettin' back in here today, and Holy Crap! Lizard! If there's anything we can do to help, let us know! The economy is crappy here in Santa Fe too, but there ARE some jobs out this way if you want to relocate to liberal central!
Posted by: USMerc | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 11:29 AM
HOLY CRAP! Lizard! Every time I look back in here you are having a worse and worse day! ANYTHING we can do to help, we're here for you brother!
Posted by: USMerc | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Lizard is right..OS&RR is the virtual bar where we all sit around and discuss the news(?) of the day and share our opinions, and sometimes disagree, and always an attempt to wisecrack in the process, but in the end, if someone needs a boost, or a shoulder, they can get it here.
I wish I could offer more than moral support but in SC we have the second highest unemployment rate. The weather is awesome but that won't pay the rent.
Posted by: joel | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 11:57 AM
LGL and Thomas,
Gigs come around and go around. The next job--oh yes, there *will* be a next job. You think you're gonna get to sit this one out? Nope.
Anyway, the next job will suit your skills better and have fewer things that drive you nuts. Although there will be one co-worker who is certifiable. Sorry about that.
This message brought to you by Heaven's Seventeen--Clairvoyance Division.
Posted by: nellagain | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Y'all shut up. Lizards don't cry.
Posted by: LimeGreenLizard | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 12:22 PM
We don't have tear ducts.
Posted by: LimeGreenLizard | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Not to Hijack, but the 'Photo and TV report' link now has a video of police tasering a 70+ year old woman that is really interesting in a OS&RR way.
Posted by: stopeatingmysesamecake | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 12:33 PM
....ah but lizards do have those cool blue colored tails that (according to my dog) are very tasty, and said tails grow back.
hugs to my LGL! know we are behind you and will help ever we can, dood. :*
and joel has it. we are the virtual extended family and if we were around each other, oh yes,there would be some good sibling fights. but no other post group would be allowed to bother us.
Posted by: lynn | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 12:37 PM
LGL - sorry to hear all the bad news. Seems like if it's not one thing, it's another. The economy up here in the Evergreen state is not too bad. And if you can stand the 8 months of grey skies, that Mountain is pretty spectacular.
If you're the outdoorsy type, there's plenty of that up here, too.
Posted by: Navy Chief | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 12:51 PM
LGL, here's to Grandma--never another like her. And as for the new job you're going to get, fingers crossed for a great commute!
pnwgal--just how badly was your sister playing the piano?
And guys, it's threads like this that make me happy I am an only child. Congrats to you all on making past puberty.
Posted by: d'ep | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 01:15 PM
LGL.. I'll toast to grandma and good luck at finding work. And at the risk of offending the non-religious. Wherever good people go after they die, my grandma's showing off her roses to yours.
Posted by: fredzilla | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 01:51 PM
Did the adult who reported them even try telling the girls to stop fighting? Or did she just call the cops?
Good grief, my niece and I would be in trouble these days. We got into fights all the time (and conspired to hide them from mom, so we wouldn't be spanked).
Posted by: sillymagpie | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 02:22 PM
to semsc: i saw that!! bad form, bad form! do not taze the old girl lady wimmins...nope. makes the cop look like a big wuss if he can't handle her.
Posted by: lynn | Tuesday, June 09, 2009 at 02:53 PM