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Frat president says dumping crap on members isn't hazing
A bucket containing a "slurry of vomit (and) urine with large brown chunks that could have been feces" was allegedly dumped on three frat members' heads. The frat president admits this was "irresponsible and immature" but insists that "we are a non-hazing fraternity." (Badger Herald)
May 7, 2008 | Permalink
Comments
well then i guess everything's hunky dory
Posted by: elchampino | May 7, 2008 5:55:34 AM
greeks have warped sense of foreplay i guess
Posted by: ugboss | May 7, 2008 5:56:39 AM
I always start my morning by pouring a cup of warm fresh urnine and poo over my head. These kids are just a bunch of wimps that need to man up but then again, this could have been some sort of wizardry.
Posted by: The Asshole Guy | May 7, 2008 5:58:55 AM
I guess this is why I declined an invitation to join a fraternity when I was in college. There is no way I would stand there like an idiot and let someone dump a bucket of crap on my head. And if someone tried to do that to me I would end up kicking the shit out of them.
Posted by: G-Man | May 7, 2008 5:59:12 AM
Frat boy is right. Its not hazing. Its assault and battery with body waste. Which merits a felony conviction, not to mention civil action.
Posted by: nellagain | May 7, 2008 6:03:50 AM
The crazy part is that most of the letter writer don't seem to believe there's any problem, except with the student reporter.
Posted by: Displaced | May 7, 2008 6:13:41 AM
The witness was across the street. The contents appeared to be vomit, urine, and feces?? How the hell would you know that from across the street? We floated a Baby Ruth in the public pool as kids...looked like sh*t even up fairly close, but unless you were right there your opinion would have been wrong. They didn't have a statement from the dumpers or the dumpees...not exactly investigative journalism is it?
Posted by: jojo | May 7, 2008 6:19:15 AM
Yeah, you're right, Jojo. After somebody got a bucketful dumped on their head, and consequently all over the ground, there would be no way to cross the street after the incident and verify the contents. Because I'm sure those well-meaning but misunderstood frat rats cleaned up the mess immediately following the incident.
Ladies and gents, I present the Leaders of Tomorrow.
Posted by: Mark | May 7, 2008 6:40:25 AM
there would be no way to cross the street after the incident and verify the contents.
Come on now. This is jojo we're talking about. ;o)
Posted by: Naga Please! | May 7, 2008 6:50:20 AM
This just emphasizes why I'm so glad I never rushed....of course, sororities usually aren't this gross.
Posted by: twerp | May 7, 2008 6:51:35 AM
JUST AN ACCIDENT I GUESS
Posted by: ULTRA | May 7, 2008 6:53:11 AM
I always figured sorority hazing basically involves some type of lesbian gangbang.
At least that's how it always is on the movies I've seen.
Posted by: G-Man | May 7, 2008 6:55:54 AM
what ever happened to good old ass kicking? i mean now its poop being thrown on or at you and allthat, but used to be they just would kick the sh*t out of you and if you kept a smile then you were in.....kids these days are dirty
Posted by: Amara | May 7, 2008 6:56:54 AM
I think these frat boys have their history wrong. Getting covered in vomit is a Roman Shower, it has nothing to do with the Greeks.
Posted by: Joe | May 7, 2008 6:58:40 AM
Reading stories like this makes me glad that I never was involved with the Greek system. Too many people fall for their ersatz promises of "brotherhood" and "sisterhood" but get only empty wallets and alcohol problems.
Posted by: Phranqlin | May 7, 2008 6:59:22 AM
Sadly enough I was Rush Chairman for a fraternity. Our hazing was very mild compared to some horror stories I have heard. Week long beer benders, being forced to miss classes to clean are not that uncommon. There are some good houses out there but they get the stigma of being nerds or wimps for not hazing or getting drunk till you puke in a monday morning. We did raise quite a bit of money for various charities so it was all good.
Posted by: jupiterjim | May 7, 2008 7:06:33 AM
They want to be part of that group, I say pour it on them all night long. But don't come whining to me when you get sick you pathetic loser.
And these losers will never be leaders just drones that fuel the dittohead mentality. You want to be a leader? Be a servant and help the poor, the sick, the old, the young and the dying. Give to the community, volunteer. Teach through example, not through disgusting intemidation tactics.
Posted by: Ted | May 7, 2008 7:07:42 AM
Just good clean fun, I guess.
Posted by: Drake Timbershaft | May 7, 2008 7:32:24 AM
Two indications of stupidity:
(1) The hazing incident itself, and...
(2) "including myself..." Morons always use terrible grammar.
Posted by: Sheila | May 7, 2008 7:57:30 AM
Put them on double secret probation.
Posted by: lawdog | May 7, 2008 8:51:18 AM
Fraternities are nothing more than thinly-veiled drinking clubs whose behaviors and initiation rituals usually involve some variety of homoerotic activity. I don't understand why a freethinking man or woman would join a fraternity or sorority.
Posted by: Dick Tater | May 7, 2008 9:25:33 AM
Let he who is without sin fling the first poo.
Posted by: Drake Timbershaft | May 7, 2008 9:25:38 AM
Hepatitis, anyone?
Posted by: some chick | May 7, 2008 9:30:23 AM
The jeopardy college tournament is on this week from the Kohl center in Madtown.
Will this be one of the questions?
Posted by: A.V. | May 7, 2008 9:31:24 AM
Back when I was in college their were rumors that the Sig Eps had to F-ck a Sheep during hell wk. That sounds like a better alternative....
I think I threw up a little bit in my mouth while reading that story.
Posted by: Cherie | May 7, 2008 10:57:34 AM
AV; I usually watch Jeopardy but find the College week like watching a train wreck. A few years back the category was "Carbon Based" and the answer was "burning the midnight..." No one gor the answer correct. Great to see that the contestants missed this question but knew how many #1 singles Britney Spears had earned up to that date.
Posted by: jupiterjim | May 7, 2008 11:08:17 AM
Let me see if I understand this - these guys paid money (prolly their parents' dollars) to this organization so they could stand in public and have a bucket of indecent contents dumped on their heads?
Sheesh.
Posted by: just saying | May 7, 2008 11:14:24 AM
Informative article quote:
“This action was irresponsible and immature. The leadership including myself do not condone this sort of action,” Miesen said.
Glad he cleared that up -- but, truth be told, isn't doing irresponsible and immature things the whole point of joining a fraternity?
Posted by: KF | May 7, 2008 11:38:41 AM
So, according to frat members, technically this isn't hazing since the pledges are the ones dumping the disgusting contents of the buckets onto the seniors. Apparently, seniors can't be "hazed" by the strict definition of the term. Learned something new there.
That being said, it's still an immature and repulsive act that should not be condoned by the college or the "Greek" community.
Not being a member of a fraternal organization, I had always believed that the ancient Greek culture symbolized enlightenment, philosophy, beauty and art. In reality, it's about paying people to be your friends, getting drunk and dumping crap on each other.
Posted by: WellThen | May 7, 2008 11:44:14 AM
This sounds like a case for:
CHI SIGMA IOTA...The Greek Version of CSI.
Their Beta Gamma rays will identify/match the alleged 'waste products' DNA in the dump buckets as well as an extensive 'soil sampling' of the yard where said dumping took place.
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Disgusting as this is....
The participants agreed to it... stupidly.
Those frat rats best be careful...
I hear the rumble of Zeus coming closer!
Posted by: Anna | May 7, 2008 1:31:11 PM
If it were a proper Cleveland Steamer, then it would be hazing, but poured out of a bucket? Lame, just give them swirlies.
Now I'm all wanting to start my own post-collegiate frat. Lots of hazing, fun stuff too, not shitting into buckets. Burning police cars will be step one. If the FBI isn't involved by the end of pledge time, then it wasn't good enough.
Posted by: steveO | May 7, 2008 2:40:28 PM
Screw the volcano treatment, I say all the frat boys should receive a swirly in the nearest sewage treatment plant...and to think, this is the future leadership of this country...*shudder*
Posted by: CryMeAriver | May 8, 2008 4:27:13 AM